{"id":42729,"date":"2017-12-21T08:22:17","date_gmt":"2017-12-21T08:22:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bnreport.com\/facebook-sends-ars-takedown-notice-from-pink-floyd-over-nasa-audio\/"},"modified":"2017-12-21T08:22:17","modified_gmt":"2017-12-21T08:22:17","slug":"facebook-sends-ars-takedown-notice-from-pink-floyd-over-nasa-audio","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bnreport.com\/en\/facebook-sends-ars-takedown-notice-from-pink-floyd-over-nasa-audio\/","title":{"rendered":"Facebook sends Ars takedown notice from Pink Floyd over NASA audio"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure><figcaption><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/GettyImages-862121778.jpg\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Enlarge<\/a>\/ Artwork issued from the album cover <em>The Dark Side of the Moon<\/em> released in 1973 as seen during the 2017 Pink Floyd exhibition in London.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gettyimages.com\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Rahman Hassani\/SOPA Images\/LightRocket via Getty Images<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u201cThe Eagle has landed\u201d are among the most famous words ever uttered in the 20th century.<\/p>\n<p>Most Americans know that those words were spoken by Neil Armstrong just before his famous 1969 walk on the Moon during the Apollo 11 mission. (You have been watching <a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/science\/2017\/12\/apollo-risk\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ars\u2019 Apollo documentary series<\/a>, haven\u2019t you?)<\/p>\n<p>Apparently Pink Floyd (or at least some bot acting on the band\u2019s behalf) thinks that it owns the copyright to the NASA-recorded audio.<\/p>\n<figure><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/wtfpinkfloyd.jpeg\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/wtfpinkfloyd-300x469.jpeg\"\/><\/a><figcaption><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/wtfpinkfloyd.jpeg\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Enlarge<\/a>Ars Technica<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>On Wednesday, <a href=\"https:\/\/business.facebook.com\/arstechnica\/videos\/10155298977898753\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ars received an official notice via our Facebook page<\/a> that <a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/science\/2017\/12\/apollo-triumph\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">one of our videos<\/a> was in apparent violation of Pink Floyd\u2019s copyright. According to the takedown notice, just a six-second portion of our video was infringing. When we clicked the link to see, it turned out that Pink Floyd was upset about six seconds of audio that we had taken from <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/Apollo11Audio\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">an official NASA recording that we pulled from the Internet Archive<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Here at Ars, we\u2019ve been reporting on intellectual property disputes for some time. We know we\u2019re in the right here. In fact, this <a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2012\/08\/as-curiosity-touches-down-on-mars-video-is-taken-down-from-youtube\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">isn\u2019t the first time that<\/a> NASA videos have been subject to erroneous copyright claims.<\/p>\n<p>As a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.usa.gov\/government-works\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">United States government work<\/a>, there are no commercial copyright protections on that recording, so neither Pink Floyd nor anyone else can assert a copyright claim over them. So, we\u2019ll chalk this one up to an honest algorithmic mistake.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cgcounsel.com\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Cathy Gellis<\/a>, a California lawyer who works on intellectual property cases, told Ars:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>The problem may instead be with the fingerprinting systems large service providers are using to preemptively mark content for removal and their reliance on these systems despite their apparent imperfections\u2026 Even if these systems can correctly suss out that a posted clip might bear a resemblance to a claimed work, it doesn&#039;t follow that they know anything else about the copyright status of the particular posted work, including whether it was posted with permission, or as a fair use, or in accordance with some other circumstance that would make the use permissible.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The notice doesn\u2019t even say which Pink Floyd track we apparently infringed. After some online consultations with various Pink Floyd fans, it <a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=fC_BAgAAQBAJ&amp;pg=PT186&amp;dq=Taken+from+the+nasa+recording+archives&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwiK282WlJnYAhXNUN8KHfKjAm0Q6wEIJjAA#v=onepage&amp;q=Taken%20from%20the%20nasa%20recording%20archives&amp;f=false\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">appears<\/a> that similar NASA audio was used in an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.discogs.com\/Pink-Floyd-The-Dark-Side-Of-The-Moon-Immersion-Box-Set\/release\/3137117\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">early version<\/a> of \u201cThe Great Gig in the Sky.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>You\u2019ll find the NASA audio on the Early Mix disc (Disc 6) in the Pink Floyd DSOTM Immersion box set. It\u2019s the audio replaced by Claire Torry\u2019s wordless vocal on The Great Gig In The Sky track on the final album. https:\/\/t.co\/m8snxKMNCl<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Brendon Parsons (@BrendonParsons1) December 20, 2017<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The Facebook takedown notice gave us the option to \u201cdispute\u201d the claim, so we did.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve reached out to Facebook, Universal Music, and Pink Floyd\u2019s Twitter account for comment. None responded as of press time.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/blockads.fivefilters.org\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/blockads.fivefilters.org\/acceptable.html\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/?p=1235703\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Original Article<\/a><\/p>\n<p> [contf] [contfnew]         <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/themes\/ars\/assets\/img\/material-ars-db41652381.png\"\/> <\/p>\n<h5><a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ars Technica<\/a><\/h5>\n<p> [contfnewc] [contfnewc] <\/p>\n<p>The post <a href=\"http:\/\/newswirenow.co.uk\/2017\/12\/21\/facebook-sends-ars-takedown-notice-from-pink-floyd-over-nasa-audio\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook sends Ars takedown notice from Pink Floyd over NASA audio<\/a> appeared first on <a href=\"http:\/\/newswirenow.co.uk\/\" rel=\"noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">News Wire Now<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Enlarge\/ Artwork issued from the album cover The Dark Side o..<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":42730,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[50],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-42729","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-tech"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - 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